Dear Speed Seduction® Students,
The other day I had this email exchange with a strongly skeptical student. Read on to see his challenge and my answer.
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> —- Will XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX wrote:
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> Ross,
>
> In reality there is no actual proof available that speed
> seduction works as advertised.
Will, that depends on how you define proof and what standard you apply.
go here:
http://www.seduction.com/wallofproof/
Watch every one of these.
Then tell me: do you really believe that every single one of these guys is either an actor or is lying?
Also, download the PDF “The students speak”. That’s 30 pages of student testimonials. I have not altered anything, other than spelling and grammar, and sometimes students ask that I not use their real names so they supply a different name.
By your standards, virtually no one would be convicted of a crime in a court of law, because:
1. The eyewitnesses could all be lying.
2. The physical evidence could be faked or contaminated.
Even a video of them actually committing the crime might be faked.
> There are testimonials that can easily be
> faked and the only demonstrations you do are in front of a live
> audience which is nothing like the real world and can also easily be
> faked.
Do you really think all of these videos are fake? That these people are lying?
And who says in front of a live audience is “nothing like the real world”? In fact, it’s even harder in front of a live audience because I can’t be covert about it with the women.
> So I ask why there is no infield video of speed seduction in
> action if it works so well? Almost all of the other big name gurus have
> infield footage of their methods working in the real world.
Really? The most I have ever seen is guys getting some attention from women by being entertaining or maybe getting a make out with some drunken whore. (Is that the real world? A bar or club where some 6-7 is drunk out of her skull?)
Have you ever seen any infield video leading to an f close that was video taped?
And more importantly: how do you know THOSE aren’t faked?
I have it on good info that at least two of the big “infield” gurus hire actresses.
As to why I don’t do it:
1. It’s illegal in California to record an audio conversation without PRIOR consent. As in a felony.
2. It’s a time consuming, messy process to set up a location in another state than the one I live in, get permission from a venue to film (Starbucks, Whole Foods) etc.
And finally: people can always say it was fake.
Will, the ultimate proof for you is: will Speed Seduction® work for you?
That’s why I give away a massive amount of free stuff. So guys can get results and then come back and buy something.
So…why don’t you dedicate yourself to some study and see how YOU do? Ultimately the best proof is your own results.
Plenty of free stuff for you to try and see for yourself. You only pay me if it works for you and you decide you want to come back and buy.
Given your standard of evidence ” DOES IT WORK FOR YOU?” is the only proof you can ever accept.
And I respect that.
RJ
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Well, students and readers, how about you?
Are the testimonials enough to convince you? Or do you need to try out some of the great free courses?
Or are you ready to step up and go for it, full blast and full out?
Peace and piece,
RJ
P.S. I really DO respect skepticism. With all the fakes, cons and frauds getting to many guys before they come to me, I have to provide plenty of proof to win their trust.
I’m happy to say I’m able to do it.
“I have it on good info that at least two of the big “infield” gurus hire actresses.’
Any chance one of these is *** aka. **** ****** ********
Ross, don’t waste your time with skeptics would see real evidence and try to punch holes in it. They make the worst customers and take up more time than its worth. Stick with open minded students willing to learn.
What it comes down to: Did you made this thing all up yourself?
@Timo Jesus, a double-dutch special fuck you to you too. Now I’ve got skeptics about my skeptics!
For the record: the email was real.
RJ
Mighty Ross! Nice reply, although…why answer a skeptic? I mean, fuck him too, right? In a slightly different way, of course.
Look here, before I was fifty-five women were pretty easy for me. When I really needed one, behold: pussy appears. I’ve had at least thirty wives, three of whom were my own, and got quite a bit of free-range stuff over the years mostly by pheromones and luck, I suppose.
Later things got pretty dry, partly because as I got older and knew more I got dicriminating, plus I realized I wasn’t much of a long-term relationship guy. Personal feelings of guilt, etc.
So OK, in my early sixties Ross got published in Playboy, and I used a couple of ideas there and had a beautiful and intelligent woman move in with me for five months. She was 24…when that ended I licked my wounds and searched to find more Ross Jeffries.
The marketing wasn’t as good then, and it really was pretty difficult. Things have gotten a lot more accessible since then.
So I saved my money and sent for the Basic Course and over the next few years my life got a lot more interesting. Bush had gotten into office and killed all the alternate energy programs, so to save the
prototype company some friends and I had formed I went to driving taxi at night in the Bay Area on weekends.
Ah, yes, women. Great fun even to talk with. Guys too, interestingly. I’d be riding around at night, picking up and dropping off, learning every bar and party place for a hundred miles, rocking around in a huge Crown vic with power and leather everything, either listening to El Guro Maximo Ross
on the tape deck, chatting up an interesting single or group, or…I had guys who would pay me just to drive them around for an hour, meter running, so they could talk to me.
And lots of good times.
Now I’m in my seventies, and my priorities are different, but when I want to talk with a woman anywhere I can, and I can take the conversation as far as I want. Thank you Ross.
As far as women now, I’m like a dog chasing a car. Catching them’s pretty easy, but there’s only so much I can eat. Like Doritos they just keep making them.
I think what Ross has done, in creating a serious body of work in the field of improving human communication and social understanding, is that he opens doors to opportunity, your choice of target, and I intuit that one of Ross’ basic messages, to us who know and those who don’t, is “Free your mind, because EVERYTHING else is free then, too..”
all the best, brothers, from Yr ancient Uncle.
There is even one with a whole “reality” show hiring actors as candidates
Ross:
Some people can’t be convinced that SS works. Skip them – they won’t buy your product anyway.
Just for the record – I purchased your original SS Home study course in 1998. I was sold when the “Find your ideal lover” exercise worked beyond my imagination.
Thanks Ross,
Neal
Nope, I have used SS 3.0 and it does work. I would say that when every other method would stop, SS has still a chance to win the girl. because it uses deep NLP and hypnosis concepts that are powerful. although it was hard for me to learn it and I haven’t figured it out completely yet!
My criticism would be only about the quality of women being picked up by SS or any other method. After a few relationships with these girls I am starting to think that if I can seduce a woman fast, probably she will not be a great girlfriend.
Those women that I love are simple girls who are living with the normal dudes who suck at seduction!
it’s a paradox!!!
HI Ross
I think its that old chestnut of this student doubting himself more than he doubts your products.Thats the vibe am gettting from his words.
Seems more smokescreen to just say everythinks fake etc.
Its much easier to blame someone else up until now than to maybe take responsibilty to practice what you preach.I have followed your newsletters since 2002 and now studying alot of your free info which is genuinely awesome.
Has he actually tried your free stuff????
Social conditioning and programming have been kicking us men around for years into false beliefs with woman and society
up the ying yang.
Up until now that is.Ross you have a sincerity about you & and a real genuineness.Your products are vastly impacting the lives
helping people in all walks of life good on you on man.
Keep up the great work.
Cheers Paul
UK
I would never record a Sarge, because they are under my protection as soon as I do. Wasn’t that one of the first rules, way back even in 2.0?
Just curious.
I can tell you it’s not fake. A very good friend uses it in a masterful way and was very helpful in getting me to focus on speed seduction exclusively. While I have not been able, up to this point, to credit it with any of my closes, I can tell you I sm getting much more powerful responses than from anything else I have used.
Ross’ stuff is good for almost everything! On a scale of 1 to 10 1 being a shut in and 10 being super confident and massively charismatic, I’ve gone from a 2 to a 9! Seriously! And that’s just the stuff I learned from his youtube videos dude. Ross does give out tons of free stuff on how to be more confident and his principles, paradigms and techniques work!
I was at the beach today, and I walked up to about four or five gorgeous women sitting around in a circle and started talking to them. One of them is what Ross refers to as a the opposite end of a duck flying south, but Jennifer, Mallory and the other one were at least HB’s 8-9. I used Ross’ intuition gag, and was chatting it up for like 15 minutes. I even got to hold one girls hand.
I used my intuition so well on these girls THEY ACTUALLY THOUGHT I WAS PSYCHIC and one let me hold her hand while I did some boyfriend ignorer techniques on her. I am going to meet them again tomorrow for some fun, maybe more than that perhaps… 😕
Ross is a genius. I am progressing using his materials, and his teaching mentality off get off your ass and out into the field with intelligent learning technology beats the hell out of any of the massive bull shit theories out here. Face it folks, Californians tend to be innovators.
@Joey that is because we are stuck in traffic so often with nothing better to do.
Hi Will,
Improving on an area of your life that has been paticularly challenging is kinda like standing up straight with someone behind you and falling back hoping they’ll catch you… if it was a close friend you’d probably go for it (Thinking, if you let me hit the ground we’ll never speak again)
But why should I trust this Ross Jeffries? I don’t know him, He wants my money so I want proof….
I wasn’t introduced to Speedseduction, I stumbled across it.. And we all have the right to be skepticle, probably more than ever, so I watched videos on youtube….I have to admit, It made so much sense right from the start that, I found myself realizing it was all the persuasion you need and want to buy some girlgetting products.
I ended up with proof…The willingness to prove to myself what I am actually capable of when I really want something…
When I started out I couldn’t even approach a girl without shitting myself….I mean litterally shitting myself. I was a walking, seducing shitting machine.
But I would keep smiling, clean myself up and go straight back out there in the field and go again.
Howz Dat for a slice of fried gold!!?!
TTFN
rUS x
@Rus
Exactly: your own results are the best proof because you can’t fake it to yourself.
Anything I do or present can always be challenged by someone as “fake”. So I give away LOTS of free stuff on Youtube, this blog, seduction.com etc.
Go prove it for yourself. For free. Then come back and buy if you’d like.
Nowadays that ought to be the standard in the business, but it will never be. I’ll have to remain extra-ordinary. What a burden…sob.
Hi Everyone,
I’m glad to be so warmly welcomed, I’ve not been practicing the techniques for long, and I’ve tripped over my dick so many times I can sit on it, However, proving yourself to yourself is what carries the most weight, and that’s what it’s all about,….Happy Dayz….Glad to be a part of it :o)
Even if I did find out I was being duped by actors and lyers, Speedseduction would still be the single most thing that has actually gotten me off my arse and given me exactly what I needed to meet some of the most splendid and sumptuous women around – I WAS lost – rus x
P.S. What a extra-ordinary Teacher we all have…lol
FannyTastic
There are no guarantees in life. Ross gives unconditional guarantee! It’s not just about getting laid. It’s more than that. It’s about making your life worth living, unfolding a dream, getting the best in you!
Ross changes lives every day. Thank you for helping countless men out of the slump! It proves to yourself!
You are a blessing Ross. You legacy will live for ever…I will be telling my son there is a Guru called Ross and give the 3.0 course as a gift for his 18th birthday!
Let me say this, I’ve gone through a lot of other stuff that costs much more than what Ross charges, and Ross delivers beyond what they do.
I am 44 years old, and I have better women around me than when I was 24 (that was a sad and lonely time). In fact I think that’s about the average age of the women I tend to be with lately, but then again I don’t really bring up age.
The BIG problem with Ross’s material is that that as you master his material it’s possible you could believe that you are a “natural”,and you might not even realize just how awesome this material is.
Ross has the best deal around, as you can sign up for his coaching program for a limited time for only $1 and see what it’s like to learn from the person who is still leading the way. No one else comes close.
Oh…OK… Speedseduction® is a Dalek Conspiracy for world Domination & Shergar sank the Titanic, “iceburg”, …ppffff…..i think not! Also, Language Patterns are tested on Beagles & are proven by top Albanian boffins to cause rickets & internal bleeding if inhaled (by Beagles) ..FACT!
ROSS JEFFRIES !!! — CREATING GENERATIONS OF PSYCHOPATHS, SOCIOPATHS, NARCISSISTS AND MEN-WHORES LACKING TESTOSTERONE!!!!