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    shoaib September 30, 2010, 9:56 am

    ross i have a question i really like using direct approaches but i feel a bit wierd when its the target is with her friends or a group of friends would the direct approach still be effective for the night game please let me know thanks

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    technoslaughter September 30, 2010, 5:03 pm

    Excellent simple information Ross. I truly love this lesson because my guys who learn it are right in the field that night seeing positive interactions from every woman they talk to, whether they succeed or fail with the initial open. Either way it’s a success because they are either loving or learning.

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    Paablo September 30, 2010, 7:41 pm

    toast?

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    Pdaablo September 30, 2010, 7:47 pm

    the key is all about being different. that’s why arrogance i some cases works.. just being difeerent for a woman makes all the difference. so start by not asking any kind of intervieuw questions like whats your name do you come here often etc.. I like to say to a woman; I need your help.. there’s a weird guy checking me out (point at freak) what do you think he want’s from me? i’m afraid he’s gay or somethinh and that he think that of me aswell… and then the fun conversation starts and it’s ants in the pants

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    kijinn October 1, 2010, 3:22 am

    oh my god fell down when i try learn to walk how many times don’t know,i can walk, i misspell so many words before i learn to write and be understood perfection the curse which prevent of from learning or learning any new skill. the best thing to come term with is i do learn from the misstep, the falls,once learn they mine’s mine’s mine’s. this the way life is,will be always.i this really reach inside of everyone reading this.you have to willing to risk to gain.

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    Grey October 1, 2010, 6:39 am

    Hi Ross,

    Thanks Ross, I have been reading your emails for about a year now and I have found that the information you provide can be used in other areas of your life as well.
    I stumbled across some interesting things in relation to the activities of one of my superiors and of course I did the correct thing and brought it to his attention thinking, as he was only new in the job that he may not be aware of his error.
    I work for the government and the executive officers were well aware of my superior’s actions as they even provided assistance to him. It has been just over two years now and to say they have come after me is an understatement.
    Without going into details my supporters do not understand how I not only survived and also how I have managed to defeat all their efforts to date.
    The answer is really simply. The answers are in emails that you have posted. Firstly:
    I made the decision some time ago that until now they had the upper hand now it is my turn to get the upper hand (up until now). Secondly
    I needed a better argument- so I researched how to get a better argument (What do you want and how will you know when you have got it? – What will you hear, see, feel etc? The attacks on me became an opportunity for me to learn and to have fun know that I was obtaining the skills to defeat them. Thirdly,
    I am going to make mistakes, that is the learning process and when I do make mistakes and I feel like shit —– it is an internal response that has no value outside of me. How does this help – the mistake is an error in the process not an error in me. – work the process.
    Ross I thank you from that warm fuzzy place inside for all the help you and your writings have provided to me over the last year. I am going to make mistakes – so what! (Acceptance confidence).

    See Ya
    Grey

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    Mark Shepard October 1, 2010, 9:03 am

    Ross, you once again hit the nail right on the head. That is the key most pivotal concept in all of the process of transforming ourselves from guys who settle and who go home alone to becoming the guys who go for what they want and use every mess up as an opportunity to learn and have fun.

    Thanks again!

    Mark

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    Brian October 2, 2010, 1:18 pm

    This newsletter makes me feel better after last night because I really messed up. Thankyou Ross.

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    Nick October 2, 2010, 5:13 pm

    Hey Ross

    Obviously with me writing this comment, I have got girls, but NOT the ones I would really like.

    I am reading books now to increase the number of conversations I have with a woman. It seems that with certain people I am more confident around girls, and with other groups, I hide in a shell and wait for them to leave. Something is preventing me from going up to these girls. I don’t think it’s fear of rejection because I spoke to a cute girl at the jobcentre and she smiled when I did, though to be fair it would be very unprofessional if she didn’t act curtiously.

    I say to myself that they are human beings too that they feel the same way I feel, however that is still not helping me. I have read your newsletters and have the new phrases in my mind so I was wondering if you could help me find a way of helping me *NOT CARE* what anyone thinks and just go up to them because I think that’s the main reason why I’m not. Plus if there are any other pieces of advice you can give me to counter the fear of embarrassment which obviously feels in my stomach when I wish to say something but she’s with friends etc.

    Best Wishes

    Nick

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    Tom October 5, 2010, 7:34 am

    I noticed, when I intentionally try to fuck up I get the best results.
    For example from time to time I approach women and use the worst or most stupid pick up lines I can think of. In most cases they start to laugh and from here you can go anywhere.

    What I haven’t figured out yet is following:
    Last Saturday I was on a Party. It was great, a lot of people and a lot of HBs. I decided to be rather direct on that day and see what happens. So I approached one hot chick and offered her to dance. She asked me if I really want to dance or if I’m trying to pick her up. I said “both” 🙂
    She was stunned, surprised and smiled about my answer and replied that no one ever has approached her like that. However she walked away – don’t know why.
    Is it possible that women who haven’t experienced something like I did are afraid of themselves or me? Was I too direct?

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    Georgio October 6, 2010, 4:10 am

    Tom, What you did was give her what she wanted, that’s why she left.
    What would you do differently, in that situation again?

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    michael October 9, 2010, 6:05 pm

    Yeh Georgio for some strange reason I agree, I ve been in tonnes of situations where this has happened & some of those have gone well so I tend to look back on them & say what did I do that made it happen? But in my experience its hit & miss…..

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    Tom October 10, 2010, 11:25 am

    Georgio, what do you mean I gave her what she wanted?
    I guess I’d approach her differently – however, it was just an experiment. I just wanted to see what will happen.

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    Zarathud January 6, 2013, 10:21 am

    Yeah you don’t have real information until you do something. Guys used to give themselves ‘sarging names’ based on Hollywood images of master seducers. Mine is currently based on some work related training experiences. I’m not out to get laid but to master the next step. Not as exciting, but that’s a good thing and actually doing more now when health and time permit.

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    DangerMouse January 6, 2013, 12:52 pm

    Damn …I feel good.

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    Alexander Rose January 6, 2013, 3:45 pm

    Yea you pretty much have to be ok with screwing up, but also realize that women are not perfect; They also screw up and don’t know what to say sometimes. A lot of times I believe that’s why after a long silence they say “Well I’ll let you go now” or “I gotta go” because they don’t know what to say and are feeling really awkward.

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    Justin January 6, 2013, 8:03 pm

    It’s funny how I used to fear things like screwing up and stumbling on patterns or when talking with women. But, after taking on the acceptance confidence approach and just doing it. Mistakes and all I still see more success that I ever did waiting for that perfect moment. I still get a kick out of seeing the non-verbal responses I get from women when using the pattern even if I miss key commands etc… Just the other day I messed up the supermarket pattern, got an opportunity to transition to the BJ pattern. Didn’t get that one right either, but I still got a great response her cheeks got flushed and her bottom lip began to quiver. It was all I could do not to break out laughing. Thanks for everything Ross.

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      Paul Ross (aka Ross Jeffries) January 8, 2013, 3:20 pm

      @Justin

      George Patton used to say, “The good is the enemy of the best”. Meaning, it’s better to do it than try to get it perfect.

      Enjoy and learn and be grateful for every experience.

      RJ

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    A M January 7, 2013, 8:53 am

    Ross, if you would exit from your comfort zone and go into the social-night game, what would you want to keep with you from SS, essentially and unconditionally?

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      Paul Ross (aka Ross Jeffries) January 8, 2013, 3:19 pm

      @AM

      It’s not about comfort but about what best and most efficiently works for me. I’d keep everything from SS. It all works. Especially state and noticing/using responses.

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        A M January 10, 2013, 3:13 pm

        Thank you Ross, I was thinking to a different way to capture and lead a woman’s emotions in a respectful way, with less verbal patterns and inside her social perception of the world, so the pillars would be controlling my state in a noisy/flashing environment and a true understanding of the girl…

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    Hooha February 20, 2013, 6:55 pm

    Sure had some fun with your courses. Met so many women and got all the tail I wanted just by opening and seeing where things went. I am now engaged to the woman I truly want in my life forever. Thank you!

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