Dear Speed Seduction® Student,
Yesterday on my blog, I told you about my student who had sex with the super-squirting babe who dried up and flaked on a planned meeting.
24 hours before their next scheduled meeting, she texted him with this: “I have to cancel our plans for tomorrow. I totally forgot about a previous engagement.”
He knew immediately (as did I when he told me) that it was a flake, a line of total malarkey, because she didn’t say she was sorry, didn’t immediately offer to reschedule, and tried to hide behind texting rather than calling him.
A few minutes after I wrote yesterday’s Steaming Hot Seduction Secret, I found myself AGAIN in teacher/mentor mode (the place where I thrive). I wrote out a brand-new Anti-Flake Phone Message Pattern and e-mailed it to him. As you know, I do my best work when I am hands-on with my students, helping them succeed in their specific situations with women.
Some of the key points of the Anti-Flake Phone Message Pattern (spoken in my student’s voice) are:
- I’m trying to figure out what’s going on and want to open the opportunity for you to tell me
- I’d rather have it on the table or in my face, then behind my back (I use this in one of the screening patterns I use when I Sarge)
- I’ve enjoyed being with you and want to hear what’s going on
As a smart guy who is serious about success with the hottest of super-hot, wet women, he called her that evening and she answered the phone. After she tried to play him off and tell him she wasn’t “in the mood to talk” he had her pause and focus on listening, and then he spoke the Anti-Flake Phone Message Pattern to her, word-for-word.
For a “use a knife to cut the tension in the air” 20 seconds, she was silent. I would venture her previous men have been Average Frustrated Chumps (AFCs) and she’s never been in the presence of a real Speed Seduction® Master who powerfully claims his desire, his skills, his success, and his future. Now she was confronted by a man who doesn’t mess around when it comes to getting what he wants, and realized the “game” she is used to playing with men wasn’t going to work on him.
Then she said, slowly, “I’ve given this a lot of thought and I just don’t think we have much in common. You’ll make a woman happy very soon, but I’m just not feeling this. I’m sorry, I’m really bad at this.”
Whether or not this was THE truth, it was, as far as he’s concerned, “her truth” at the moment. And it wasn’t his job to “figure her out.” In fact, in my debriefing with him he said the only part he really heard was when she said “You’ll make a woman happy very soon.”
Like this pattern? Pretty cool eh? It clears things up so you can focus your energy and efforts on women who will be worth your time. That sure beats a poke in the eye!
For those of you who claim access to the brand-new Speed Seduction® Secret Training Collection, among the bonuses you will find an e-book that contains several actual, word-for-word patterns that overcome any “phone flake” situation. Including the one where this student clarified that the super-squirter was indeed “all wet” and he could, and would, do much, much better.
Peace and piece,
RJ
P.S. The goal of the Anti-Flake Phone Message Pattern is to get her to step out from behind her game and claim her truth (if she can). In this case, she couldn’t. This is an indicator of how she would behave toward him if their interactions progressed to “seeing each other” and then “boyfriend/girlfriend.” By using the Anti-Flake this early in the interactions with her – the VERY FIRST TIME she flaked on him, he sidestepped a landmine so he can refocus his Sarging efforts toward finding the RIGHT women for him.
P.P.S. Would you like to get your greedy little hands on word for word seduction patterns, INCLUDING the “forbidden” Gemini and Dark Sun patterns that induce permanent behavioral change in the women you desire, allowing you to mold them to the exact erotic specifications you require, demand and dream of?
Idk ross.. I mean its kind of cool that we can now tell what the woman thinks but i don’t think its the chase to figure them out. I don’t mean to be judging or anything but help me clear this out in this story. So first she flaked him.. then she flaked him again forever after pattern? I mean I can call up my X’s and they would tell me about the same thing. All im trying to figure out is maybe her second reaction things she says is still covered with a bunch of shit and there is a way to evoke her deeper self where she is just going to admit to herself that she is scared to fall for someone so fast. And then overcome this fear.. this is my thoughts on it.. i would like you to tell me if it is true.. if there is a way to peel those layers and block the fears. I mean of course its not our problems if the girl is damaged but aren’t we all are? on some level.. i mean there are insecurities in all of us. and the same way you try to solve the student’s blocks on seminars and via e-mail you essentially doing the same thing where you take the damaged person and then you peel off layer by layer.. until you get to the core and when person sees that this is such an insignificant problem that causes it its usually all there is to solving it. So if anyone has any thoughts or experiences on how to peel layers in woman please share with us.. thank you for your time.
@Mishka – in a way you answer your own question. The main purpose of an anti-flake pattern is to determine whether she’s interested but for some reason not quite ready to take that next step (in which case we do the work you describe above) or if she’s just not interested in pursuing and is for whatever reason unable to say so (my student’s situation). Either way, anti-flake creates a NEW opportunity for her to come out from behind her game, and regardless of the result, that benefits you.
@Mishka
We don’t want to spend too much time trying to figure out “what happened”. There is a point at which, unless we can do an actual experiment, it becomes just like medieval theology and trying to answer questions like “how many angels can dance on the head of a pin?”. Sooner or later empiricism has to be our guide and we chalk it up to “i don’t know” or the most likely explanation.
RJ
Ross…I’m not much of a pattern user(yet), but…in the case of a chick who “came 13 times”…wouldn’t there be some kind of pattern related “anchor” to get her to entertain the memory of cumming 13 times…hence bypassing her fickle womanly nature?
I personally have had a handful of similar situations, where sex occured(ok..not 13 orgasms sex, but) and after that, the chick never got back together or even ignored me. It’s like..they’re the ones that like “one night stands”, not US! I’d rather have a 5, or 10 night stand. If its good once it’s good twice. I think this is a BIG issue for some guys, because they FINALLY seduced a chick, they feel like they actually know something, then POOF, it disappeared.
Now sure, some of it may be because she’s got other guys on the back burner, and maybe they’re more interesting to her. Maybe she even has a boyfriend, and you were just an “fling” from the start. And maybe with a chick who cums 13 times… she is just one of those hyper orgasmic women, so maybe a guy that can give her an orgasm isn’t that special.
BUT, i think in at least HALF of these “one night stand” cases..it is the “fickle womanly nature” that is literally talking herself out of enjoyable sex. I honestly think women who do this to themselves are not serving themselves. Now.. your the master of directing a womans emotions and imagination. You mean to tell me you can direct a woman’s mind sexually when you haven’t nailed her yet, but after you nail her you can’t? COME ON. There’s gotta be a way. Why would it be harder than seducing her in the first place? All your pattern did was get her to say “Yeah, im a fickle woman, and RIGHT NOW im not feeling sexual”. Couldn’t you have given the guy a pattern to LEAD her imagination back to the 13 orgasms?
@Brandon
Once they are not in your presence, the chance to anchor in these responses is shot.
And remember this: sooner or later, the person’s beliefs and values will trump ANY anchored responses.
I think you said it yourself about talking themselves out of enjoyable sex. Or more accurately, their social programming is fighting it out with their biological desires and needs. And since they are immersed in a media culture that enforces this EVERY day, unless they are a deeply responsive, hyper-hypnotizable subject, and/or you can keep them from watching tv, going to the movies, listening to music and talking to friends, that programming is going to keep hammering away at them, re-installing the conflict.
Get what I mean?
Hi Ross,
I have also be in the situration where I have had women flake on me after what they have indicated to me was great sex for them.
They said I was the greatest thing since sliced bread then sex then nothing – what gives?
Only one women every gave me an answer – after sex she said I was not her type.
After sex I simlpy did not exist and no amount of talking changed that – so Ross, help please -what gives?
See Ya Grey
@Grey and @Brandon … what Grey describes is pretty much what happened to my student. Here’s why. On the first scheduled meet, my student took her back to his place and used a pattern he invented from his favorite singer’s songs that got her to literally drag him into his bedroom. All told that night, he spent $11 for two overpriced coffees and got laid. Then three nights later he took her to dinner and a comedy show and got excuses. This is where things got fucked. When he took her on a “date” all of a sudden she pulled out her “checklist” of “what do I want in a guy?” and he didn’t meet the criteria. Yes, there are ways that a guy can overcome this. He was far from powerless. However, HE felt that unless they were fucking, he didn’t really have much to talk about with her, either. He had other prospects who seemed more his style. So he CHOSE “Exit, Stage Left”.
Speed Seduction is also about CHOICE and being able to walk away if that’s what you CHOOSE. No, it does not make us powerless.
@Grey
A few possibilities.
1. She only wanted to get laid.
2. She was cheating on a boyfriend.
3. She isn’t sure WHAT she wants from sex: a one nighter, a boyfriend, etc. etc.
4. The sex actually sucked but she didn’t care to share that with you.
RJ
Hi Ross
Thanks RJ. I remember after sex I did go on a date with these women. Look like I stuffed up – now I can refine the process.
Looking forward to see you down under.
Merry Christmas RJ
See Ya
Grey
@Grey
Yep. We are coming to Aussie land in October 2011