Dear Speed Seduction Fans,
I can honestly and accurately say that I have never met a more diverse bunch of sociopaths, liars, creeps, back-stabbers and all out thieves than the guys I know in the Pick-Up/Seduction guru game. The vast majority of these folks(and I’ve met virtually all of them) have never put together an original idea in their lives, don’t give a shit about really helping guys change, and are stealing each other blind.
Now, just to illustrate what scum fucks most of the rest are, there is a Pick Up “Circus”..uh, I mean summit..coming up in August. Various different “instructors” from different “camps” are coming, or at least ALLEGEDLY are coming, with the proviso that the line up can change at any moment.
I can personally tell you that: THREE of the speakers run businesses that are almost entirely based on ripping off Mystery. As in virtually word for word. One of the allegedly confirmed speakers is the CEO of a company that is in a life or death legal struggle with Mystery’s company, Venusian Arts. This guy has hold of Mystery’s website, is claiming the right to use the name “Mystery” etc etc. Ok, fuck it, I will name names: Savoy, you are a rat fuck. And I hope Mystery kicks your sorry ass in court, the way I kicked it on Dr. Phil.
The rest of the speakers, with perhaps ONE exception, are peddling watered down hybrid mixes of my work and Mystery’s, with a smattering of theft from books on evolutionary biology and “how to dress for success” tips.
And don’t get me started on the skank-bangers running the thing. Now listen, if i seem like a bitter fucking crank, if you intend to write to me and tell me to stay “positive” I can only say… HEY FUCK HEAD..YOU AREN’T THE ONE BEING RIPPED OFF..BUT THEN AGAIN, MAYBE YOU ARE!
Look: stealing is stealing. Someone who takes the creative effort of another, gives no credit(and no check!) to the originator, is a fucking thief. A person’ with loads of ambition, probably lots of envy too, but no integrity, no truth, and probably very little talent as well.
But here is another point: thieves like this don’t give a fuck about the talent from whom the steal. That’s obvious. So what makes you think they have the integrity to care about you, the student? Do you really think someone who will not think twice about stealing the life’s work of another gives a damn whether YOU get what they are teaching?
I don’t know what to call these guys. They surely are NOT teachers, as I define it, because teachers put the student first, and these guys are incapable of putting anyone before themselves. In their eyes, you are no more important to them than those they steal from: we are all are merely card-board cut-outs in their inner movie of fame, fortune and power. Genuine sociopaths.
Now finally, I hear some people say, “So what? I’ll learn from anyone. I’d learn from Hitler if he could teach me.” My answer is: “I’ll learn from anyone is only a step from saying I’ll learn AT any one’s expense and I’ll DO ANYTHING to learn it.”
That’s what these sicko rip-off artists live by. Don’t make the same mistake.
Peace and piece,
RJ
I had never heard of the word “PUA” until I had the misfortune of stumbling across the work of a “David DeAngelo”. I ended up spending almost a grand on his stuff. I also went through one of the darkest, most miserable periods of my life following that. I was poor, depressed, had spent hours a day watching his “theories of the brain” and had wrecked interactions with countless women, coming off as a total asshole using his “cocky funny” notion. I had also alienated some of my best friends.
I finally came to the conclusion that SOME of what he teaches, has a TINY place in SOME interactions with SOME women, but it was far from the shinning salvation that he promises. Most of his stuff is filled with hours of gibberish anyway. “Pick up 101” wasn’t much better, and what a fucking stupid name.
Thank God I finally found your stuff, Ross. And thank God for your crabby- ass rants. At least you tell it like it is.
Thanks, Jess.
You know, sometimes I feel like Dr. Frankenstein; giving life to a monster that has ran out of control.
I find what is going on at that event beyond appalling, and that one of my former co-trainers and friends is deeply involved in the entire thing is deeply and personally painful.
I spent nearly ten years training this guy, and he’s diluted, degraded and deformed himself and his learnings so that now he is teaching crap like, “the porno-stripper super-hypno” induction and he thinks that having strippers at these events is part of a good learning environment.
Or who knows what manic and grandiose bug has exploded up his ass-he now is so over the top, that you would hope and pray that he is joking around and making a parody of the whole thing, but no, this whack is SERIOUS.
So, hey-if you are going to the event, have a party. See which impersonator, imitator, delinquent and twist you’d most like to be like.
Or get a goddamn refund and do something better with your money, like donate to the Children’s Hospital. Instead of giving your money to a bunch of juveniles who SHOULD be in a hospital ward being closely watched by the men in white coats.
RJ
93/93
Yo Ross,
I feel for you. Realize, in the end, we all figure out who THE godfather of Pick-up is.
-Matt Sharky
what you are saying is true. Most of these guys use your work. I understand your reaction to this. I would react in the same way if someone would steal something (whatever it may be) from me.
Especially I understand your reaction because of a former coworker that uses your stuff and claims as his own.
I really hope that their customers will see the light and that you may teach them the right way.
But think of this, all great men are impersonated by someone in some way 🙂
Is there a recording of when you kicked Dr. Phil’s ass? I’d really want to see it.
I will say this having been in the community for quite a while ( pre- “the game”) …AND initially starting off with RJ’s materials, it is very true that many people out there (former students of Ross and Erik) are pushing their own twists based off Ross and Eriks individual genius. In academic circles you give credit to the source of information, but in “the community” it does not apply.
I don’t consider myself a pua(a stupid constructed label with limitations) or even the greatest with the ladies;I still have other areas of more importance to work on.
I can say this the way I ” think” about stuff has been influenced greatly by the design of Ross(some of his former co-trainers) and a small bit from Mystery. I have had small success applying their ideas to the realm of woman, but I have added their concepts to other areas such as school and the broader strokes of life i.e. family and friends.
What I am trying to say without going on a tangent is this…I recognize the many former students of RJ and Mys. who were inspired by their thoughts and created their own products for commercial purposes. Some of them have very interesting stuff(and a lot of their design in thought has come from the two).
There is no standards set in place amongst the other teachers, instructors, and I will be harsh… wanna-bees. Even with the infighting you would think some would give credit. It is a rarity at best. Anyhow, thank you Ross…I continue to enjoy your stuff and how you have effected my deeper levels of thought.
btw it looks like the Dr. Phil episode is being plugged this Friday. but there Dr. Phil advertisers are trying to pigeonhole the episode(in their ad copy) for effect.
Yo Ross,
I feel for you. Realize, in the end, we all figure out who THE godfather of Pick-up is.
-Matt Sharky