Dear Speed Seduction® Student,
Watch as I dissect my response to the woman who tried to friend-zone me:
Peace and piece,
PR (aka RJ)
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Hi Ross,
I often watch your videos, comments, etc. In this two-part piece you have done on this woman I have noticed two things. 1. How come she wasn’t told at the outset of her comments? 2. Your response to her is a great answer to the whole thing in-a-nutshell so to speak. If a woman wants to shut herself down, in my opinion why even bother entertaining someone to begin with or befriend them? It’s a ‘fact-of-life’, people do not hang out at these ages to expect nothing to happen, ah really? That’s it!! Enjoy the rest of your weekend!
Noreen (-:
Good stuff. I found myself leaning toward the vulgar “F off” type response recently when dealing with a similar situation. I figured that was always better than succumbing to her BS and becoming a eunich. Yours is an example of a more powerful alternative.
So Paul, you are saying women will still try to LJBF you sometimes even if they are attracted to you? I thought that was their way if saying they had no attraction towards you. Can you get into the female psychology behind that a little deeper? Why would she put the breaks on like that if she was into you?
Thanks!
Great question E! I’ve had a situation where she said LJBF and I puzzled over whether she was saying this despite being attracted or whether she said it because she really wasn’t!!?
She showed lots of interest intially, saying I feel like I’ve known you for a lifetime and gave plenty of sexual signals. Then I backed off, didn’t respond to her messages or calls and guess what? She started chasing me big time trying to arrange getting together..I just told her I was busy so we’ve yet to meet up again!
Paul, any thoughts on this distinction between whether she’s saying LJBF because she’s genuinely not attracted or whether she’s hiding it and just friend zoning you anyway?
Sunil.
I thought it was pure genius..u told her how u honestly felt without losing ur cool
Hey Ross what was her response back?
If your words stir her soul the absence of your words will make her stew and *yearn* for you. Most men have to become comfortable with the silence women are comfortable with. Silence doesn’t mean she’s forgotten you.
[edited: unintelligible typos in last two posts.]
Kamal,
Were you in Magical Connections DVD?
Wade
Ross,
In a world of 3.5 BILLION women, why would you wast your time even speaking your truth to this woman?
She doesn’t want to be with you (or so she says). Why not go find a woman who does?
Bill
@Bill G Because it’s fun. And I wanted to see what would happen. Good enough? It took me 3 minutes to write my response.
A good one indeed!
A point you didn’t mention:
‘see what organically might arise that we both feel good about’
Is very much like:
‘see what organ might arise that we both feel good about’
… and as such may evoke sexual images.
Beautifully executed. Would you say that majority of women come up with a story like the one she posted. It seems that most women act in similar ways that allow them to keep their options open for some guy who comes along who is a jerk that they allow themselves to get involved wit. This is a phenomenal example that I think all men can learn from on how to take apart an email or message and make them really think about what they are doing to guys. Most women will act in such ways. But honestly I just learned a lot about this from this example.
Thank you
Peace out
Mr O.
Quite interesting response. So sophisticated and YEAH we want the response from HER !
i loved this aproach, i just truth and self respect, please ross, have a book out for kindle, cause the dvd course is way out of my price range, thanks!!!!
Hey Ross, nice lesson. However if this does’t work then cut it off correct? Let’s us know how you made out.
@Sean I really don’t give a fuck what happens. Already banging the hell out of someone super-hot so what do I care? It’s just a fun experiment and a great teaching example.
Ross, I almost shot a load while reading along!
Where can we download this masterPIECE for daily motivational and evaluational purposes?
“the moment” and “from moment to moment” seem to be great literary trigger-words for women from their romance-reading days. It seems to invoke an emotional longing.
In my experience women seem capable of marinating in their own juices for as-much-as weeks and even YEARS before giving in to a man. They seem to like it this way. I think men should reframe and appreciate the hunt is part of the fun and is never really over in a quantum universe that seduces us.
Great works!
@Medulla Yuck.
Shot a load?
Yuck.
Ross, did you develop the things going FF and she feeling stocked? looks like security cameras that grab only frames
That is the most professional way ever seen of speaking the “female language” in a “man way” and so it is so beautiful when you can speak the language of the pussy and therefore get what both sexes want: love sex and connection.
By the way, what did she respond to this letter?
I think you handled this in the way any true master with true integrity would have and you’ve certainly got the skills and experiences for the could have, and did have!
I was led on with something like this a couple of years ago by this woman and I was actually standing in front of her at the time when she tried to shut me off as a man, to make it worse we actually had a conversation something like yours but not with your skill set, but we discussed it. She appeared to agree that I was correct about some unpleasant circumstances are running her life and holding her back (your reference here). we chatted some more, finished our drinks, she asked me if I’d walk her back to her hotel room (both on vacation) she even took my hand as we walked along, at the door I went in for the kiss and she turned away at the last moment and I got her on the cheek, I was angry at first and stepped back and looked at her and mentally said “F@@k you” and I’m with Noreen here, I just walked away.I was angry because she led me on.
This does not seem like a normal FZ problem to me. Look you’ve handled it exceeding appropriately, if you really don’t give a f@@k why bring it up, she’s what we called “f@@cked in the head,…. move on.
Hey Paul,
The way you had put your words in your response makes beautiful sense but, it‘s so far, just “Theoretically” beautiful, since you have not replied to the three (I’m the 4th) inquiries, asking about her (M) reply to your letter.
You know, sometimes things look absolutely GREAT on charts and in tables (in theory) but, when taken to the real world…??? Not so much.
@Mr Goodygood
You are missing the point.
I am not and was not expecting any kind of verbal response, whatsoever.
My sole and only intent was to reframe her thinking and then do what I am doing now, which is putting her” in the cooler”.
My plan is to wait until the middle of next week and send her a text saying, “let’s meet for a coffee”.
IF she does agree to meet, it will be with a MUCH different frame of mind.
And even more to the point; just because this is the first time I’ve posted about this strategy doesn’t mean it’s the first time I’ve ever used it, with good success.
It’s not about the response of any one woman, but the over all responses and taking on a completely different way of responding than most guys.
And..I’m simply not invested in the outcome. I already have a hot 22 year old who is meeting all of my needs(and then some) who also thinks this woman is hot and wouldn’t mind sharing a bed with her.
So…who knows?
RJ
Also, the link in the top of this page, “Go here to find out about the killer new bonus…”
doesn’t work.
Saw this redhead for a while that I wanted to bed –
but hadn’t fucked her yet – she gave me the LJBF story.
I ask her how many men “friends” she has – answer ZERO.
I KNEW she was into me tho’.
I was EXTREMELY pissed off & didn’t care less, so I said to her:
MEETING ! TOMORROW NIGHT ! 20:00 !
I could’ve told her what I needed to there & then
as I was in her apartment at the time but I
WANTED her to mull it over for 24 hours.
She asks “should I be worried?” (she’s ALREADY worried).
I replied “YES” & walked out.
EXACTLY 20:00 next evening I knock at her door.
She offers me coffee – I ignore the offer & say:
“I have only 5 words to say to you!”
Her eyes are like SAUCERS – probably from being
WIDE AWAKE the WHOLE NIGHT – She says “what”?
All I say is “WE FUCK OR I’M GONE”.
She thinks for about 1 femtosecond (1/1000 000 000 000 sec)
We fucked a couple of times a week for the next 6 MONTHS,
(I was bedding another one during this same period anyway).
Since then I tell EVERY woman I meet:
“Honey, there are two things you NEVER EVER say or do with me”,
1) “Pat me on the back”
2) “Tell me LJBF”
MORAL:
Quite frankly, once they say LJBF, WTF HAVE YOU GOT TO LOSE?
Paul or Ross,
“@Medulla Yuck.
Shot a load?
Yuck.”
Right. Yuck! Yet this is the audience who responds to you. They are the same ones more interested in having a beautiful girl on their arm to create envy in other guys, then they are in actually having her and giving her pleasure. They are more interested in getting rid of sexual tension then building it into a powerhouse.
Ka ching! The money is addictive and leading wannabes around by the nose is more alpha than having the ladies. When does being ALPHA GET BORING. ZZZZ. Ha. I know. It’s just fun. Na, not really.
Time to quit. Take a little time off. Write a book about deeper stuff you’ve learned. Or NOT.
@Tuber
Wow. I thought, after 23 years, I knew my audience far more intimately than some random blog reader. Thanks for setting me straight.
PLONK.