Dear Speed Seduction® Student,
One sign that you are doing something right is that you are pissing off the right people.
As one of my mentors once said, “If you aren’t offending someone at least every day, you are watering down your message”.
Over the years, as I’ve taught and spread the Gospel of Sargy, I’ve encountered all sorts of knee-jerk reactions from people who can’t even hear what I am saying because they are…
…Responding From Their Fixated, Auto-Pilot Notions
Of What They ASSUME I Am All About
It’s hilarious how these misperceptions has not changed one bit over the years.
I’m hearing the same crap, or reading the same crap online, that I used to hear from studio audience members when I first did the talk show circuit in the early 90’s.
The basic Dumbkopf response categories are:
- Calling me “misogynist” or “sexist”.
- Insulting my personal appearance; “ugly” “geeky” etc etc (silly because I OWN that I’m a tall, skinny, aging geek WHO GETS LAID)
- Threatening with bodily harm
No s&#t.
And the same idiocy and knee-jerk crap responses from the 90’s happened JUST RECENTLY.
Hell, when they searched the Boston Bomber’s apartment and found he had a copy of the workbook from my Deluxe Home Study Course, the Wall Street Journal mentioned it on Page 1 (in, like, paragraph 26 or something), but then some person on The Blaze tried (and failed miserably – for once common sense reigned and few people really gave a s$&t) to make a deal out of it.
What’s The Deeper Cause Of This
“Ross Jeffries Is Evil” Nonsense?
Actually the REAL question is: how is this deeper cause affecting YOU as a smart man who loves women?
Some of it is sheer reactive stupidity.
But the more dangerous aspect is the attempt to silence ANY attempt to empower men to have genuine choice, variety, selectivity and power when it comes to attracting women. (It’s shameful that men join in on this.)
The women who consider themselves (again, due to bullshit social programming) ugly, nasty, off-putting etc don’t want men to have true choice. Because they damn well (fear) that drone-powered-men would most likely NOT choose them. So it’s pretty amazing to see how they try to shame, shun, and intimidate you away from your natural desires.
(It’s bullshit. Especially when I have students who love bigger women and are RIGHTFULLY damn proud to be with and seen with sexy thick chicks.)
The other category of idiots are those people who don’t want to admit the reality of their own very flawed romantic world:
- They are deeply threatened by the notion that maybe, just maybe, they(or the person they are dating) is settling for a real-hate-shun-ship by default.
- They want to believe in the cultural myths of men as beggar, buyer, bullyer or boozer.
- And anyone who offers to awaken them from that slumber is not well received.
Had Enough Of The Romance Racketeer Bullshit?
Welcome to the Kingdom of Sarge.
Jump in and give your opinion. Leave a comment. Let’s get this party going.
Peace and piece,
RJ
P.S. Again, no one will ever say I have achieved success on looks alone, because… I don’t have the looks.
But I still get laid a-plenty, and have helped over 10,000+ smart guys do the same.
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Hi Ross,
R u checking what the people outside the SS comunity are thinkin’?
What’s up, Ross? Your hair looks cool!
In regards to your post, do you believe that it’s not plausible to market your products in a way that doesn’t offend people and still make an impact? Kind of like bypassing automatic triggers in women you’re sarging.
What made me write this comment is that I’ve been very focused on my skills in seduction(I’m not that experienced in SS however), that when I don’t get good responses, I would get very upset. And nowadays I’m thinking that somethings are out of your control and you can’t expect to please everyone…
I think this is a similar message you’re sending.
Cheers!
What’s up, Ross? Your hair looks cool!
In regards to your post, do you believe that it’s not plausible to market your products in a way that doesn’t offend people and still make an impact? Kind of like bypassing automatic triggers in women you’re sarging.
What made me write this comment is that I’ve been very focused on my skills in seduction(I’m not that experienced in SS however), that when I don’t get good responses, I would get very upset. And nowadays I’m thinking that somethings are out of your control and you can’t expect to please everyone…
I think this is a similar message you’re sending.
Cheers!
Sex Ninja, I’m not going to water down the message to avoid offending people who don’t want men to have power and choice with women.
Fucking pussies….
RJ
Too bad they shut down your gig over at laist, but you have to understand that this is the threatened response of people who feel like they might either be losing power or that someone else might be gaining more power than they are.
Check the response to Ron Paul for instance. No Im not trying to tout him on your blog, Im just saying those whos ideas differ than the masses as you well know have to deal with the ridicule and so on of those who are fearful.
The fact that they reacted so strongly should be an indication to you how strong a product you have.
Anyways I heard a little about your Nail Your Inner Game Product? What would be the difference between that and the Beyond Confidence Videos or Unstoppable Confidence?
Reason Im asking is that I swear I can be my own worst enemy. I have been on one hell of an emotional rollercoaster and have experienced things that I wouldn’t wish on my own worst enemy and yet I keep bouncing back and all the while I have gained successe with women – even during times I was suffering emotionally and combating my emotionals issues.
Now I have a fucking glow that can’t be denied but I STILL after some of the beautiful women I have been with and some of the sexy experiences I have had since learning seduction skills choke ALOT. I can’t do sets, sometimes I sit at home like right now and my mind gives me all these ominous thoughs about all sorts of rejections and having to seek approval and all that EVEN though I have already learned that this is NOT the way to be.
And I know why, because of what I’ve gone through in my life. Fear is my biggest enemy and I swear I don’t want to get stuck on him. I should be able to defeat fear but it still is a big issue with me and meanwhile I have seen some of my friends who study Pick Up bypass me and I begin to think there’s something wrong with me because I should be doing ALOT better.
Anyways to keep this short ;p What is this Nail Your Inner Game going to do for me and how? Can you give me examples?
OH one more thing that is VERY important. I have a tendancy to self sabotage. If I do something that works sometimes I will get bored alot and move on and not do it anymore, which never makes sense to me. When I meet a challenge or see a result instead of striving for even greater challenges or results I seem to kinda stop and lose focus. I might be ADD or something but IMO I just like experiencing as much of everything I can. Another thing I do is start things and leave them unfinished. The only thing I seem to have a drive for is physical activity – I love working out and pushing myself even though my body hates it (during), however funny enough when I was younger I won a national championship in martial arts but then soon after I just kinda stopped and lost interest. Recently I started thai boxing an its a bitch (my feet are bruised and soar from kicking today) but I love it.I know you didn’t want to hear my frickin life story but when I get on a roll there’s no stopping me. I just wish I could get out of this moderate, sporadic success with women and move to the next level instead of battling myself all the time. Im doing ALOT better than I used to before studying but I know I could be doing A WHOLE LOT BETTER than I am doing now.
I see your point. What I’m trying to ask is that instead of directly arguing with them, how come you don’t use NLP skills to pursuade them instead? You don’t just go up to women and say “fuck me now cuz you really want to, you just don’t want to admit it!” Why not apply the same principles in pursuading people whom are against your teachings? I’m not saying you should or not, I’m just curious as to your thoughts on this.
Hey Ross,
Thanks for the speedy reply! It’s good to know you’re interested in selling your product. :o/
Sex Ninja, I'm not going to water down the message to avoid offending people who don't want men to have power and choice with women.
Dude, you look more manly than ever in your recent videos! But seriously, I don’t have much more to say about this one. Your marketing is offensive and and it’s the only teaching leading to experience anywhere in my adult life that’s significantly and continuingly improved my relating to women. I just realize today that I actually do get a fair amount of “action,” if not intercourse, and I have had enough bad sex in my life to know what I’m not missing and what I am.
”How you treat other people is ultimately how you treat yourself” – Ross Jeffries, Master Seducer.
Fact:- whether you use this material for good with women or not.
Hi sifu,
As you stated before, humanity is locked into the matrix and we can see the code they can’t. So why wouldn’t they be threatened by what your doing if it shakes their fundamental reality.
LOL If they found comic books in the Bomber’s larder, it would spark a whole (new) anti-comic book phenomina.
I’ve collected the RJ series since his inception, and there is always more than just what you read
and hear. From SS Classic to his now, infamouse Series.
He was just getting the same heat that Hughe Hefner got many years back.
Sarge on Master Paul
hi Ross , i have read and seen your material , and it is great, the only problem that i have is that i get ..i don’t know… scared , freezed when to approach any woman and apply the stuff you teach on her, or just simply to talk to her . Any advice ? Thanks.
As a woman who has made it a point to study and learn from the “seduction community” I want to say that of all the teachers, your work has struck me as the least misogynistic and the most healing oriented of all of them. I really appreciate that about you.
Your marketing on the other hand is another thing entirely.
I understand that you need to pace men who are angry and frustrated and that you enjoy being outrageous. (I love outrageous too!) You often help these men to release their anger and frustration and become more happy and successful and powerful with women.
Clearly this process works! The same process could be transformational in your marketing approach.
So let me ask the question….
Are you man enough to risk releasing the anger at women in your marketing materials and welcome even more power into your life and work?
Glad you like my work.
My marketing is what is required to get attention.
You don’t lead people from where they aren’t. You lead them from where they are at.
And the “man” enough challenge is just plain lame.
But hey, if you want to subsidize my business while I overall everything, I’m game.
Put your money where your lovely mouth is.
And….drop me a private line. You’re pretty cute from your pic…unless its a front for a spray painting business.
Really!? was “man enough” more lame than “frilly panties”?
I’m not suggesting that you stop pacing your audience, only that you consider the possibility of toning down the anger against women part. Surely the anger isn’t helping men relate to women in a powerful way and you are a model for many. Have you considered the possibility that you underestimate your audience? Or that whole new markets may open up if you present your materials with less anger and judgement around women included in them?
Anyway, I’ll continue to enjoy your materials and filter out the marketing.
By the way, we have already met. I was in some of your demo videos.
@Alisa
I don’t see it as anger. I see it as rallying the guys. Persuasion Power For Pounding Pussy isn’t angry…it’s EMPHATIC as my dear departed Mom would say whenever I’d ask her why she was being so angry!
(HAHAHAHA….go figure out my “issues” or whatever)
And..don’t remember you.
What are you doing these days?
RJ
I get it, some people are more “emphatic” and it’s hard to tell if it’s anger or something else..especially if you are on the receiving end and it’s somebody who has installed all your buttons like your Mom!
I want to share with you what I think is the sexiest thing I ever saw you do…got your attention? No it wasn’t at a seduction seminar. It was a video I found on Youtube when I was first looking into your materials, where you went on this Christian program and stood up for the “capitalists for Satan” group..or something like that..don’t remember exactly.
You were so outrageous and mischievously provocative in the way you shook them awake from their mental slumbers into total confusion where they could perhaps let a new idea or two in. And the balls to do it!
That was awesome and super sexy!
I love the “gadfly” role too. Like Socrates, showing people the contradictions in their beliefs. I think it’s a sacred role.
It’s something I really identify with and do often with the people in my own circles.
In my experience the message is always more powerful when the messenger seems to be in a desirable peaceful place (and people tune into that as you know.) On a small scale, yes, you get the angry guys to listen to you, but on a large scale you miss out on opportunities to teach and influence that you probably don’t even know exist for you yet.
So I have some questions for you to ponder (whenever you feel moved to).
How willing might you be to just be curious and to seek out any anger towards women that might be expressed in your marketing materials?
How willing might you be to find new ways to express your beautiful outrageous self clear of anger at women?
How can letting go of anger at women make you and your students more outrageous, powerful and influential?
How many new markets might you have access to if you made this small shift?
How many things might heal and flow in your own life if you release any small angers that might be lingering accidentally in your marketing.
What’s one tiny small step that you might take to just try these ideas on and see what happens?
My sense is that the power of your teaching and the numbers of your audience will be enhanced but only you can think about it and only you can come up with your own ideas about how to make it happen in the way that is right for you and your students (and potential future students).
By the way,this is something others have mentioned to me as well, men too. That they would read your emails but they are put off by the tone. Just sayin.
I also want to point out some of the great things I love about your methods and contrast that with the marketing so you can understand more what I mean.
Great things:
Your definition of dominance..my favorite..I’ll paraphrase, but it’s about knowing where someone else is emotionally and not having to go there, holding on to your own agenda. So much more useful than the Alpha male crap you get from the other teachers.
The games you teach, like the playing with the hands thing…grounding into your feet, consistently helpful and grounded in neuroscience, the fact that you teach men how to be dominant and sexually aggressive but do not make it the centerpiece of your teachings as others do….so they can be whoever they most enjoy being without feeling they have to fit into a mold.
Your teachings seem much more oriented towards the Bonobo promiscuous model of behaviour which includes peacekeeping rituals, such as sharing resources after and not before sex..instead of the more male dominant, mate guarding (read small dick) models “social value” taught by other teachers.
I also love that you teach men not to get put off by a woman’s first response and to cultivate curiosity and use what they do or say in a playful way.
There is so much more good stuff to like.
On the other hand, when I read your marketing materials I feel like I am being belittled as a woman. Things like “frilly panties in a bunch” or (paraphrasing here from your most recent emails) “silly women who try to get control when they don’t really want it” seem to lack the wonderful curiosity and playfulness that you promote in your actual teachings.
I want to suggest a possible start for looking at this. Try to imagine what your words would sound like if they were coming from a women’s group. Let’s say the women’s tea time feminist knitting circle.
For example in your previous note “ Persuasion Power For Pounding Pussy”
could be “Jipsy Juju for Jammin on his Jinormous Jewish Jerky Stick”…definitely Kosher
But “frilly panties in a bunch” could be “His tender balls in a sweaty twist” imagine how that would sound coming from a women’s group in their newsletter!?! Ouch!
Just something fun to think about.
Anyway, I’m not surprised you don’t remember me. You were very preoccupied with a recent breakup and some insomnia issues. I just wanted to give you a big hug but you were in your own world and very busy.
If you really are interested in “what I am up to these days” despite not remembering me at all..(huh?) you can check out http://www.downtheroad.us
I’m actually writing this from an awesome mineral springs in the Colorado mountains and I’m surrounded by belly dancers and yogini’s. Incredible place.
Alisa,
You wrote:
“I want to suggest a possible start for looking at this. Try to imagine what your words would sound like if they were coming from a women’s group. Let’s say the women’s tea time feminist knitting circle.”
You gotta be fucking kidding me, right? That’s NOT my audience.
Of course men are going to tell you, IN YOUR PRESENCE, they are offended by my marketing. The goddamned, tampon-wearing jerk-offs.
Now you are right about what you say about my teaching. But you don’t know boo about marketing to men.
Yoginis? Send ’em my way. I could do some “downward dog” with them. Doggie style.
RJ
Hi Ross
You are doing a great promoting technique of your program across to the masses of
afraid and frustrated males like myself to have confidence and control in our lives,
and to go after what we want and be nice about it at the same time. Ross keep
up the good work and do not ever stop. Thank You.
peace
Ross,
I don’t think your marketing is that overzealous to begin with now. I thought it was years ago, then I watched you on the Dr. Phil show and laughed my ass off. Listening to him read your copy really made me see that I was a fool for hating on you. “But Ross, your material says, ‘If you don’t get laid, I don’t get paid.'” And honestly, you’re talking to guys that really, really need a new attitude around women before they build anymore shitty, life-long crap that pushes them off the deep end (e.g. George Sodoni). I applaud you for helping such disenfranchised people.
And I honestly used to think the PUA community was misogynistic; however, after a few years of seriously trying to have one of those Hollywood loves where my best friend who’s friend-zoned me for a long time finally decides I’m a worthy lover… I realized that that is the most full of shit idea ever. And it’s highly misogynistic because it doesn’t take into account women as people or what they really want. I’ve even been trying to wake up the guys I meet who I can clearly see this happening to by telling them about my experiences.
It’s been a rough, painful trek to “wake up” from this, but it’s probably the single best thing I’ve ever done for myself–and I’ve only made a minuscule bit of progress. And though I keep oscillating between powerful and serious chump, the gap gets smaller and I get a little better every time (it’s fractionation, after all!). My friends can see it, women are more attracted to me, and overall my life is starting to work right. It’s like a curse was ended and now I have a whole new world to explore–it’s confusing and new, but that’s so fun.
@Joshua
Funny thing is, the Dr. Phil show censored out the part where I said they edit things and censor to make their shows more sensational and to grab ratings!
You know, my marketing inspirations are:
1. Muhammed Ali-I am the greatest of ALL TIME! I loved his antics outside the ring, baiting Howard Cosell and the other fighters. He won many fights by psyching his opponents out.
2. Houdini-the magician knew how to market himself, issue challenges, get publicity, etc.
3. Gary Halbert-he taught me my biggest lessons: “People do not have time to figure out your pathetic subtlety” and “People will not tolerate being bored in print.”
Hi Ross,
Thank you for making such an inspiring article. I remember when you appeared on the Faith Daniels show and how well you were holding on to your state from women who at best were not friendly! Then there was that other dude who was a c*&^ worshiper sputtering c*&^ worshiping slogans and you were at it! Its amazing and I laughed histerically how you handled them. I would like to see more of you from the 90s.
It happened with me before, those guilt and shame trips. You probably heard of the “guys just want sex” comment in an attempt get the “oh no” response. Another one, this one girl who I determined to be a good potential friend at best would say nonsense like “I want a rich man” “I dont want to work” and such. She called me a paedophile since I said like younger women instead of her “old shoe/ aunty” look, I said ‘Thank you’ haha. She went to suggest that I was “gay” (she did a ‘quotes’ about what her friends said when they first saw me) since she has guys asking her out, calling her pretty. Basically she would be bragging in a tone of shame and guilt as though something was not right with me, man what an ego! And now you see why the highest I can extend to a girl like her is friends! Of course this attitude was encouraged by you Ross. I know you would be the last to deny how great you are 🙂
Take care
Nice emails Ross! Keep them up!
@Jerry. Thanks..those were the good old days. Nowadays, talk shows are mostly about paternity tests and “You Cheated On Me With My Sister’s Parrot.”
Bless you, Jerry. I had come upon that Faith Daniels show on youtube a couple of years ago and I’ve been searching for it again lately, albeit not remembering the name of the show.
Ross, that was incredibly entertaining. Were you on other shows as well? Grabbing some popcorn now 🙂