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  • sargenation.com September 29, 2008, 5:58 pm

    Why She Isn’t Returning Your Calls…

    Ross explains to this student why women aren’t returning his calls and why aiming for a phone number can be a big mistake…

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    Scott September 29, 2008, 8:00 pm

    Ross,

    THis is, by far the best response i have ever gotten from you to any discussion group question or problem. Really helpful, interesting and practical.

    THank you so much! Please keep them coming.

    m( _ _ )m

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    find yourself with a smile... September 29, 2008, 11:55 pm

    Ross,

    I really love your ability to look closer at a situation with women… examine it from different angles… create multiple solutions in layers of learning, and then share these insights with us.

    The open ended questions are great… let her decide how far she is willing to go right now.

    And I think the 20 minute rule is pretty practical. The S.P.E. has to be powerful enough that it still stands out in her mind by the time you call (usually a couple of days later).

    Great stuff… keep it coming!

    keep smiling,

    ben

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    Tony September 30, 2008, 1:52 am

    This makes a lot of sense for walk ups. I still need to work on going on walk ups. However, I have a follow up question. Years ago, when my confidence was high, I had dinner in Hooters before the start of a Sci Fi convention. My waitress was a hot blonde. I tied her love of Chinese Food into me and she sat down and looked through my program book awhile. She wouldn’t let someone else change the TV I was watching. She liked Spider-Man and took the subway, which I did as well. She was awesome. Upon leaving, she asked me to see her again, I said “If I don’t get back, what steps do we need to take to make sure we have a chance to talk” I swear, her eyes rolled up into her head, she said she had a boyfriend and GUESSED she had to respect that. Always wished I had something great to follow up with.
    Also, if you do have a phone number, it still gets frustrating. I tried telephone dating with Speed Seduction for many years. The few who do answer their phone and really love the powerful poems I got from you many years ago, they got really turned on. They still either wouldnt’ return my calls, only wanted to talk on the phone, or liked it so much they made up a whole persona based on lies. One girl I spoke to on the phone for a few months was so turned on by my voice and always touched herself said to me “But what if I like being with you too much”.
    So yeah, my mistake was thinking with old logic that the more I talked on the phone the better the result, but it was the opposite that was true.

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    michael September 30, 2008, 2:32 am

    My suggestiion, Ross, is to incorporate answers to questions, in your course materials, sometimes you need to rephrase something, change a sequence, or splice in a mising definition, or some other simple handling. I am a technical writer, and, as the materials approach perfection, I get less, and less questions. Students get higher marks on exams. If I find a few students making the same mistake, its my fault, not theirs. My target is, everyone so satisfied that they ask no questions at all, and the course explanations so clear, and simple, that I do no instruction at all –The lazy man’s way of teaching, and students love it. I literally review my manuals hundreds of times, to change a word here, give an example there, and so on. Couirses get shorter, and faster, but they teach more knowledge, more accurately. I test my stuff, in the field, then, its back to the lab. Some students give me a pure, and simple Mot Juste – a perfect technical term, that saves pages of explanation. Oh my God, years of some verbal struggle solved in an instant. Oh, yes, and my errors and lies blatantly exposed, and shoved in my face. So brutally righteous it is. My writing gets very powerful, that way. I am a rebel, and I believe that fluffing up instructions to fatten the text books is a criminal act. Entire text books, from some writers, can be explained in a page or two, they have so little real substance. No offense intended. Good Luck.

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    mike September 30, 2008, 7:23 am

    GUYS, Please, PLEASE LISTEN TO THIS!!!

    Ross is Spot On with this one.
    I can hardly count the number of times that I have had women chomping at the bit for me and I blow it by asking for a phone number.

    Funny, but now I can see the confusion in their faces, as I get them to such a stage and then just drop it with the stupid line: Let’s keep in touch. Can I get your number?

    Then, like a total dumbass, I used to sit back wondering why the hell they did not answer or return calls.

    I had this beautiful swedish blonde next to me on a flight.
    We just hit it off! I was super flirtatious.
    And we literally fell aspleep, cuddled up to each other on coast to coast flight. At the time, I was too much of a wuss to feel her up.

    Anyways, I ended this whole thing by asking for her number.
    Needless to say, she never answered or returned calls.

    Later on a much shorter flight, I’m pulling similar moves on a hot mexican.
    Just out of thin air I ask her to come to my hotel room.
    She spends the next few days with me.
    NO LIE!

    Don’t let opportunities pass!

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    Win September 30, 2008, 7:25 am

    Here’s how I like to get the number. Toss the woman a napkin and a pen and simply say ‘Here, you know what to do.’

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    Ross Jeffries September 30, 2008, 9:31 am

    “michael Says:
    September 30th, 2008 at 2:32 am edit

    My suggestiion, Ross, is to incorporate answers to questions, in your course materials, sometimes you need to rephrase something, change a sequence, or splice in a mising definition, or some other simple handling. ”

    Excellent suggestion. I’m thinking that IF I do a coaching program-we are still looking at some technical challenges-IF I do a coaching program along with the Speed Seduction 3.0 course launch, I’ll do on line video modules that are very much in response to student questions, what students would like to learn more about, etc

    RJ

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    Ross Jeffries September 30, 2008, 9:33 am

    # Scott Says:

    “Scot says:

    September 29th, 2008 at 8:00 pm

    Ross,

    THis is, by far the best response i have ever gotten from you to any discussion group question or problem. Really helpful, interesting and practical.

    THank you so much! Please keep them coming.

    m( _ _ )m”

    Scott,

    Will do, and thanks for the feedback. Anything I can do to truly make the teaching process a DIALOG with students, rather than a lecture, makes me a better teacher and makes my business more fun for me.

    Exploring some new ways to do that..stay tuned for some more fun right here on the blog.

    RJ93
    93/

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    Ross Jeffries September 30, 2008, 11:32 am

    Tony says:

    “She said “If I don’t get back, what steps do we need to take to make sure we have a chance to talk” I swear, her eyes rolled up into her head, she said she had a boyfriend and GUESSED she had to respect that. Always wished I had something great to follow up with.”

    Remember the principle: I seldom take a woman’s first response as written in stone; it’s almost always only a reflection of what she is thinking, feeling or believing IN THAT MOMENT, and almost always subject to change.

    From that principle and understanding, all sorts of responses are possible.

    Do you want me to do an Operation Free Line video response to this?

    Just let me know, folks.

    RJ

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    De September 30, 2008, 12:16 pm

    Ross says:
    Remember the principle: I seldom take a woman’s first response as written in stone; it’s almost always only a reflection of what she is thinking, feeling or believing IN THAT MOMENT, and almost always subject to change.

    From that principle and understanding, all sorts of responses are possible.

    Do you want me to do an Operation Free Line video response to this?

    Just let me know, folks.

    RJ

    Hi Ross,
    I believe a video response would be great! I have a few friends who seem to consider the ball dead as soon as she says, “Sorry, I have a boyfriend”. So bring it. Thanks for all you’re doing.

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    Nathan Enoch September 30, 2008, 2:13 pm

    Hi Ross,

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    Ross Jeffries Says:
    September 30th, 2008 at 11:32 am

    Remember the principle: I seldom take a woman’s first response as written in stone; it’s almost always only a reflection of what she is thinking, feeling or believing IN THAT MOMENT, and almost always subject to change.

    From that principle and understanding, all sorts of responses are possible.

    Do you want me to do an Operation Free Line video response to this?
    ===============

    I am already a student/customer, and have some idea of what you might say, but your answer above was so excellently done — clean, crisp and precise — that I can’t wait to hear you Operation Free Line answer to the remark: “I already have a boyfriend!”

    Best wishes
    Nathan

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    Tom September 30, 2008, 7:21 pm

    Thanks Ross!
    That is a good guideline to follow…don’t ask for the digits unless you’ve talked with her for at least 20 minutes.

    And, yes, I think doing the next “operation move the free line” video on handling first responses is probably a very good one cause many of us get diverted in the conversation if its not a favorable response from the hb.

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    Michael September 30, 2008, 10:20 pm

    This is great. It sure beats reading. If any patterns are demonstrated this way, people can “see and hear” how it’s done.

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    Simon October 1, 2008, 1:20 pm

    Ross,

    You are way ahead of the competition with this teaching format. I think the coaching program would be a great way of learning.

    Thanks for you work,

    Simon

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    Ross Jeffries October 1, 2008, 1:31 pm

    Well, IF I can get some technical problems ironed out, all I can say is, “You ain’t seen nothing yet”.

    Watch for more soon……

    RJ
    93/93

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    sky October 2, 2008, 2:21 am

    Ross, I vote yes on the boyfriend response.

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    Jesse October 2, 2008, 6:41 pm

    Wow, the funny things we do to ourselves by aiming too low. It makes total sense! If you KNOW you have this mastered there is NO WAY you can’t get the desired results…

    You have to take a look at your desires though, or your AIMS as Ross put it. Pure gold Ross!

    PS Your live webinar was an AWESOME idea! Guys, pass the word!

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    Seduction Songs October 4, 2008, 8:22 am

    I’d definitely like to see a vid going into detail about playing with her first responses, expecially reactions to negative responses or neutral responses. Can’t wait to get in on the coaching program, I’m looking forward to that way more than to the 3.0 course. Not that the 3.0 course isn’t going to be great, but real time coaching is really what I think I need to take Speed Seduction to the highest level!

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